Calibration Issues

[Sean van Tonder]

My PC motherboard recently gave in. I replaced the motherboard and processor.
I calibrate my monitor with a Spyder 3 Elite. I own a Dell monitor. I am running Windows XP.
Before my motherbaord decided to give in, I had edited a family shoot. The pcitures came out as expected ie: as the appeared on my screen, as I received them from the printers.
Since the board has been replaced - if i view the images in the Windows Picture Viewer, the seem OK. But if i open them up in Lightroom or Photoshop, the have a yellow hue to them.
I have been searching the Net for days for possible answers.
I have uninstalled, restarted, re-installed the Spyder software.
I have assigned profiles under color management in windows.
One thing i must add - if I assign the calibration profile to the picture in photoshop - it comes out fine. So I think the problem is that photoshop/lightroom is not seeing the profile. Any suggestions?

[cagenuts]

Seems that it's windows itself that is not recognises the colour profile. Check in the control panel under colour settings.

[Leo Theron]

Jaaaa Sean - this is what happens if you are selling your camera and kit - they come back to haunt you…


OK...

When you calibrate - that profile is used by Windows to display - and display ONLY.

Make sure that your computer:

- Does not have Adobe Gamma installed

- Uses the profile that you have created during the calibration process

- Your application SHOULD NOT USE THE PROFILE THAT YOU HAVE CREATED - that should be Profoto, Adobe RGB or SRG - in that order of preference.


HTH

[Sean van Tonder]

Jaaaa Sean - this is what happens if you are selling your camera and kit - they come back to haunt you…


OK...

When you calibrate - that profile is used by Windows to display - and display ONLY.

Make sure that your computer:

- Does not have Adobe Gamma installed

- Uses the profile that you have created during the calibration process

- Your application SHOULD NOT USE THE PROFILE THAT YOU HAVE CREATED - that should be Profoto, Adobe RGB or SRG - in that order of preference.


HTH

Very funny Leon




Checked all of the above - all OK.

Have just uninstalled the graphics card and re-installed the latest drivers.

Am busy downloading a newer version of the spyder 3 software.

Will provide more feedback once done.

[SteveG]

Have you calibrated AND profiled since installing the new motherboard?

Are you running the screen off the onboard graphics?

[Sean van Tonder]

Have you calibrated AND profiled since installing the new motherboard?

Are you running the screen off the onboard graphics?

yes Stephen - i have calibrated and profiled since the new instalation - well, this is what I am trying to do.

No, I am using a graphics card.

Last night I again uninstalled the spyder software and uninstalled the graphics card. i re-installed the graphics card ensuring i have the latest drivers. I then re-installed the Spyder.

I still have a yellow hue in photoshop and lightroom.

I am going to try uninstalling photoshop and lightroom tonight - not sure what else to do!

[Sean van Tonder]

I think i may have found the problem. It appears as though I may have a corrupt monitor profile.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942632

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/d....mspx?mfr=true

http://www.flickr.com/groups/adobe_l...7610676454699/

http://www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php...READ_ID=942919

[SteveG]

I just thought you might be using a profile from a previous graphic card / onboard graphics. The profile you were using before the motherboard died. When you profile you are, in effect, profiling the combined behaviour of your graphics card and monitor. Change one and you have to re-profile.

Corrupt monitor profile: if you've just created a new one, I wonder how it got corrupted so fast.

[Sean van Tonder]

I just thought you might be using a profile from a previous graphic card / onboard graphics. The profile you were using before the motherboard died. When you profile you are, in effect, profiling the combined behaviour of your graphics card and monitor. Change one and you have to re-profile.

Corrupt monitor profile: if you've just created a new one, I wonder how it got corrupted so fast.

Not quite sure Steve - I think that windows has done an update and loaded a new "monitor" driver. I will only be able to confirm a corrupt profile tonight though.

[Forgiss - Sean Nel]

maybe you are lucky and it's something simple like a monitor busy dying?

[SteveG]

maybe you are lucky and it's something simple like a monitor busy dying?

so reassuring... although it has some truth. buying a new monitor might be less stressful for some than diagnosing and fixing a CM issue

[Sean van Tonder]

Still can't get it right. So frustrated.

What is so weird to me is - in PS, I go to Assign Profile to the already edited image and choose the calibration profile, the picture appears to be as i original edited it. So OK - I can solve these in photoshop by assigning a profile. But i can not do that to all my images - that will take me for ever.

Then what about lightroom - all images in lightroom have the same yellow cast.

I have work to do, and i can't get this right.

[SteveG]

Don't use the assign profile trick. All you are doing is making the image display correctly through a dodgy profile. Your images have not changed, just your screen profile, so don't go editing them to make them look OK on screen. It's likely they'll look crap on a system that's working fine.

There is the small chance that your Spider instrument has died a small death and is measuring falsely. I now recall a previous thread in which Andrew McKay, an ODPer, had endless trouble with terrible yellow/green colour casts until he eventually sent the device off to SWitzerland to be evaluated. Verdict was the spider was causing the trouble.

Im not saying this is what you have, but keep it in mind. Clean the sensor with soft brush and gentle air puffer too, you might dislodge something that's screwing up the measurements.

[Sean van Tonder]

Don't use the assign profile trick. All you are doing is making the image display correctly through a dodgy profile. Your images have not changed, just your screen profile, so don't go editing them to make them look OK on screen. It's likely they'll look crap on a system that's working fine.

There is the small chance that your Spider instrument has died a small death and is measuring falsely. I now recall a previous thread in which Andrew McKay, an ODPer, had endless trouble with terrible yellow/green colour casts until he eventually sent the device off to SWitzerland to be evaluated. Verdict was the spider was causing the trouble.

Im not saying this is what you have, but keep it in mind. Clean the sensor with soft brush and gentle air puffer too, you might dislodge something that's screwing up the measurements.

Thank you Steve. I have a Spyder 2 - I will test this this evening and see if it make a difference. Will keep you posted.

[Forgiss - Sean Nel]

My spyder2 died from traveling to much. I then rented the ODP Spyder3 every few weeks, and yesterday bought the Spyder4 (Mac OSx Lion's Spyder3 Beta software is just dodgy)

Wim swears by the Color Eyes calibration software with his spyder (instead of the bundled software) by the way

[Sean van Tonder]

A faulty spyder it appears to be.

Loaded the spyder 2 software - calibrated - voila - sorted.

Does anyone know if they can be fixed and if so where?

[SteveG]

Glad you're on the way to sorting it out. send a PM to Andrew McKay and ask him how he sorted out his faulty Spyder3

[Sean van Tonder]

Glad you're on the way to sorting it out. send a PM to Andrew McKay and ask him how he sorted out his faulty Spyder3

Thanks so much for your assistance Steve. Appreciate it.

Can't seem to find Andrew McKay http://www.outdoorphoto.co.za/forums...username&ltr=A

[Stan Blumberg]

I had a problem last year sometime and I went onto the Datacolor website and logged my problem. They were swift in replying and came back with suggestions. Nothing worked and after a few days they told me to cut the wires and send a photo confirming that I had destroyed the old one and 3 days later the new free replacement, from Switzerland, was delivered to my door

[SteveG]

Thanks so much for your assistance Steve. Appreciate it.

Can't seem to find Andrew McKay http://www.outdoorphoto.co.za/forums...username&ltr=A

Oh yes, now I remember. Here is his profile:
http://www.outdoorphoto.co.za/forums...he-wild-medlar