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    The gent that does my IT stuff recommended against SSD drive - purely as these drives have limited read-write cycles. He does not feel comfortable selling me this as a primary drive as he does not believe it will give the life span we expect.

    And now I see the previous post !



    I think I will wait a bit - sure the SSD technology will evolve and become more stable/reliable.




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    dropping my current box off tomorrow - the existing D drive graphics card etc must be swapped over (the card is only two months old) We are going away for the weekend, so the wait wont be that long ...



    THANKS for all the help !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris F View Post
    The gent that does my IT stuff recommended against SSD drive - purely as these drives have limited read-write cycles. He does not feel comfortable selling me this as a primary drive as he does not believe it will give the life span we expect.

    And now I see the previous post !

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    THANKS for all the help !
    Chris - that is a new one! These are solid state devices with NO moving parts. YES, they might have limited read/write cycles, but if you write AND erase your drive EVERY DAY for a working year - 200 days - the disk should last in excess of 500 years. And a disk with moving parts? Platters, bearings, heads flying above the boundry layer on the disk, actuation coil that moves the head around and constant movement of the head. Well, I know what I would choose…

    Using the G to ogle the subject, you might just be surprised!

    On the technology front - this SSD disk uses the SAME technology that sits in your SD and CF cards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris F View Post
    The gent that does my IT stuff recommended against SSD drive - purely as these drives have limited read-write cycles. He does not feel comfortable selling me this as a primary drive as he does not believe it will give the life span we expect.
    All our developers are using these SSD drives and so far 2 years down the line there is no letting up on their reason for buying them. That USED to be a problem back in 2005 but it has subsequently changed. It has evolved but like everything it will KEEP evolving so you have to decide when it has evolved enough. Same as standard SATA Hard drives. Will you hold back till SATA 9 is out? or is SATA 1/2/3 ok? It's like how long is a piece of string.

    I have been in IT for 23 years - no matter what you do, unless you have hordes of SOMEONE ELSES money, you can't keep up! I bought a graphics card 2 years ago - eyefinity etc etc for close to R7k - it is OLD but still kicks proverbial butt!

    However, whatever you do go for (i see i5 etc) will do the job one way or the other a tap is a tap. No matter what it looks like, how you turn it on or how big it is - regardless of ANYTHING else - you will get water out of it. (unless JHB water has something to do with it LOL - ok they are pretty good)

    Edit to add: OH I forgot to mention - the bigger the drive the longer the endurance. So if a typical drive of 64GB has a life of say between 1-5 million cycles you should get about ummmmmm.... let's see.... hmmmm... As per Western Digital if we fill the disc at 2 million cycles:

    We assume perfect wear leveling which means we need to fill the disk 2 million times to get to the write endurance limit.
    2 million (write endurance) x 64G (capacity) divided by 80M bytes / sec gives the endurance limited life in seconds.
    That's a meaningless number - which needs to be divided by seconds in an hour, hours in a day etc etc to give...
    The end result is 51 years!
    Now i won't go into much more detail but some new disks, if overwritten 3 times a day in totality @ 100GB x 3 would last approximately 85 years.

    So, in short, i am not sure how long you will be needing/using the first SSD you buy but it will be out of date before it fails
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    had another long chat about the SSD drives this morning.....

    for now I am not going that route, but I am pretty sure it is the way of the future - only point of debate is if the "future" is here yet.



    Our IT guy is now busy downloading the 64 bit drivers ..... Looks NICE !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris F View Post
    The gent that does my IT stuff recommended against SSD drive - purely as these drives have limited read-write cycles. He does not feel comfortable selling me this as a primary drive as he does not believe it will give the life span we expect.
    You need to get a new IT guy then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris F View Post
    had another long chat about the SSD drives this morning.....
    for now I am not going that route, but I am pretty sure it is the way of the future - only point of debate is if the "future" is here yet.
    Our IT guy is now busy downloading the 64 bit drivers ..... Looks NICE !!
    Sometimes it is sometimes it isn't but in this case it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris F View Post
    as these drives have limited read-write cycles.
    Limited write cycles yep. Thats why they developed Sandforce controllers with TRIM support.

    There are several things one must do with SSD to prolong life, as auto defragment set to no. No Page file, or create a RAM DRIVE for your temp files.

    5 Years should be enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cagenuts View Post
    You need to get a new IT guy then.
    You beat me to it
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    So in other words dont use it to often and it will last
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeH View Post
    So in other words dont use it to often and it will last
    Following your logic, does it make sense to marry a woman and not have sex because you want to preserve the goody bits? Or purchase a car and never drive it but rather leave it on stands in your garage?

    Buy the correct SSD for the job and you will be fine. There are no free lunches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cagenuts View Post
    Following your logic, does it make sense to marry a woman and not have sex because you want to preserve the goody bits?
    What? This argument is invalid. People left alone still age. SSD's do not.
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